Dear David Gushee:
Please quit making excuses.
You say you make it a habit of not pointing fingers. Yet it seems like that is exactly what you are doing here. Victim blaming will solve nothing. The responsibility here lies with those who perpetrate such barbaric acts, and not with past misdeeds of Christianity, Judaism or Islam.
Past being the operative word. And with the probable exception of a relative few isolated incidents, (isolated meaning not undertaken by whole, but by a few radical individuals) I am talking the very distant past…as in decades, probably even centuries since this kind of wholesale atrocity was committed in the name of God.

- See more at: http://davidgushee.religionnews.com/2015/11/17/paris-attacks-religion-violence/#sthash.aoEtpzuu.dpuf


hmm … do you think dale is a fan of hereditary sin or original sin?

one might also ask if he is inclined toward denial, and is parading for a certain inquisition we shall not name … but think you can figure this out easily enough. 


next day …

man is born into sin. does this mean an infant is a sinner? seriously, how could an infant know right from wrong? or even a young child? he is innocent until proven guilty … and how can anyone in his right mind prove an infant guilty? therefore, even a child born of sinful parents is innocent. being born into sin means a person is born into a world of atrocity---a world of inconsistency, malaise, death, ignorance and disease. he is born into war. to one of gnosis, the war is spiritual. spiritual warfare … gnostics of the Light on Love should not be using guns to solve problems. gnostics of {this} do not serve in man's wars as he sees and is in the fight to understand that he is not alone. his voice is not the only voice, his words not the only words … his experiences not the only experiences … he knows of other cultures and traditions. not in agreement, but AWARE in the cause and the effect … the rules and the wherewith. he does not chastise unless he is called into the "armory" for {this} … where dominion has been stiff-necked and unreconcilable … dangerous and off. 

militant atheist ... blatantly denies the existence of spirit. he sees himself as the truth. his words infallible. "there are no angels!" he shouts. he is a fool. he is being used whether he realizes it or not ;) those with REAL experience know the existence of the DIMENSIONS … the planes as some refer to this, and the realms. atheist lives in denial. we do not judge him for his lacking experience … only where he PERSECUTES our family. he walks alone … we do not. his voice is the loudest in the room … we listen until the voice becomes dangerous and or indecent … an offense to the life of many …
 
the following is a comment from yesterday (see previous post):

JESUS ENDORSED the stoning laws – He rejected any change to the stoning laws of Moses.

JESUS – KEEP ALL 500 STONING LAWS AS GOD COMMANDS
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commands and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” – JESUS (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

ATHEIST MAX making up his own "bible"? atheist max is a militant of indefensible voice. his choice. will he know there is Spirit of a LIVING GOD? what works in him while he resides in the unconscious already knows there is. have you checked out the most recent studies on the brain? hmm … makes you wonder, doesn't it? if not, it should. atheist max, hiding behind a false ID chose to leave the roman catholic church, but did he really leave? is his mind still in "i am truth" mode? "i am the only voice in the room and i am infallible" 

PERSECUTION is a misunderstood facet of spiritual warfare. we hear the christians hollering that they are being persecuted by the politicians of this day … by false teachers … by militants with guns and so on. what the christian does not yet understand is that when persecution was spoken of in the Writings, it was referring to the BELIEVER within what john klimacus calls the LADDER OF ASCENT … the climb. some pitch tents on the first rung and attack those behind them trying to get by. ask the current roman pontiff about the pitching of these tents … accusing the gnostic. he (it) believes himself the only word in the room and none are allowed to pass. the pope had it wrong? think about it. the pope. where in the Writings does the Christ call for a universal doctrine operated by a callous, abusive, militant …  fascist regime ... called roma? the roman catholic church OR any other organized regime claiming itself God Authority? this is fool. this is non belief of a LIVING AND BREATHING SPIRIT on Truth. roma is like militant atheist. 



continued …

i read an article on the rcc choosing the vote for the roman catholics. here is a comment to that article:

Gibson, ever the papal lapdog: “Francis’ new approach.” The pope just held a synod of bishops in which he framed the issues to be discussed, added many delegates of his choosing to those elected by their own national conferences as attendees and chose those who write the synod reports. The pope decided communion for the divorced and remarried who care would be the top issue facing families, not poverty, unemployment, immigration, etc. “Francis new approach” was meeting with the sisters who are party to the Supreme Court case against Obamacare and defending the “human rights” of “gov’t employees” to “conscientiously object” by breaking the law after he met with Kim Davis.
http://www.religionnews.com/2015/11/17/catholic-bishops-revise-voter-guide-debate-pope-francis-agenda/

now, catholic, what say you? do you deny that this is true? are you willfully ignorant on what your religious leadership is up to? are they standing in your way to receiving the truth on … many things. are you being fed lies … mistruths? are you not being given the fuller account of what the vatic ants are staging for … their war? 
if you continue in denial YOU WILL RECEIVE THAT WAR! actually, because of the past sins---the sins of an institutional establishment claiming itself God Authority---you will suffer. yes, your choice to stay within the deception and the abuse … the mistruths and the hiding of crimes---paying into this establishment … you will suffer. you will reap what has been and is being sown … down under, dears … down under. allowing yourself and insisting your children obey the roman papal office as the CHRIST … results in LIFE FINDING A WAY BY REMOVING your cult. yes … that cult. that cult that is the massive stumbling block for billions and … it will be removed. how this will be removed is where you will suffer as man is inclined toward what? what is within man that forces … ? you should know the answer to this as your religious institution has been the ring leaders of atrocity. evil found many empty wells to fill and the militant zealots set sail. 

continuing …

saw an article at RNS about this group of sisters. not sure which group (denomination) if any they are connected with … but here is their link. important stuff!

http://www.talithakum.info/


so, religion is not all bad is it … BELIEVING IN SUPREME BEING is not all bad is it? 


here is the reuters article:

sex trafficking is rising globally

http://www.religionnews.com/2015/11/18/nuns-rescue-sex-slaves/

*you can thank technology for this quick mast


Added: 

The pope is prosecuting free speech instead of his men who are guilty of theft and fraud. I think Bergoglio is beginning to believe his own publicity that he is invincible. If he continues trying to prosecute these authors, the global media could as easily turn on him as they once elevated him.

this having to do with the authors having written books on the vatican corruption. yes, what betty says is exactly what we have been sharing on … will the people see him as a traitor? one can only warn and share what is gifted him … within sense and reason. there are many questions here but first, IS the roman pontiff a stumbling block to much needed information? is he in the way of sorting through the "mess" … the abuse and …? it really looks as if he is … not just in this instance but so many cases since his politicking … IS HE IS THE WAY OF PROPER INVESTIGATION? well, yes … it is very obvious to one if doing the homework that the pope is in agreement with his vatican office to remain not transparent but secretive and … we were told a bit ago that he had not set up the tribunal he had said he would … the one that was a follow up to what was to be 0 tolerance on the clergy/staff child sex abuse. he was parading himself as the pope for the poor when he should have been knocking down doors to find out what in hell was going on in his very wide-assed institution WITH UNBIASED HELP THAT WOULD BE THE KEY TO SUCCESSFUL CLEANING … not slapping bandaids on infected sores. 


ADDED:

what do you make of this?

http://marksilk.religionnews.com/2015/11/18/welcome-to-my-state-syrians/

tooting his horn again? what has silk done to stop the tide of rising sex trafficking? what has silk done to keep the people safe? his version of protection is the anything and everything philosophy of pope politics  … a sort of hiding behind a name brand … a title when the REALITIES are a completely different understanding and WORK not like his coffee and cupcake "spiritual" politicks. 

he and his cohorts are doing the SHAME GAME. okay, silk, we want to see you put YOUR JOB ON THE LINE IN THIS? it begins now.

The real problem is, perhaps, in our confidence of governmental agencies.
Maybe these Governors and statesmen know something we don’t?
Surely, they aren’t just being cold-hearted brats?

I have seen numerous confident (if not cocky) assurances that our present vetting system is not only healthy–they will guarantee that no cloaked assassins can Trojan in with the refugees. “We know what we’re doing”.

We haven’t even begun to resolve the Latino border fiasco and here come the Muslims! Are the same people in charge of securing both? Then none of us are safe, including the refugees.

If the Muslim countries are watching, I hope they note that the fear of a few jihadists among them is turning some USA mistrust into unfortunate corporate rejection. Were the situation reversed, anyone in the Middle East now (and parts of our own country) had better not claim to be Christian. Loss of pride and loss of head are two different things.

silk, are YOU going to keep them safe? fed … schooled … out of your pocket? and we will allow YOU to be the one to tell everyone else still WAITING for help to f-off … 

okay, silk … waiting … and waiting … oh, that's right, you are still enjoying your cup and cake … "catholic" style. he needs the poor to survive. isn't that right, silk?  it is kind of like the couple that can't say no to having baby after baby despite no money no food no proper housing to feed them … he just keeps on going … without any concern for what's already within his view but he closes the blinds and lies in denial.


CT … the same state with the sandy hook murders. and the casinos? how many casinos does CT have and is pushing for more? the politicians love their casinos … gee, I wonder how the muslims will feel about their members in the casino state?

http://touch.courant.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83234021/

screw education and religion … right, silk? the people can work at the casinos! put the money into the casinos---right silk? love those casinos, do ya, silk? 

http://themoderatevoice.com/200568/sandy-hook-murder-report-documents-system-failure-throughout-lanzas-life/

these children and even parents coming in are traumatized by war and abuse … okay, silk … what will you do to ensure not only the health and wellbeing of these newcomers, but the same for those in their communities?

are democrats made up of fairyland ethics? is there big dream really a fairytale? are they even capable of making decisions for the nation? do they have any idea what is involved in working with special needs? victims of war? or are they all about their politicking?


oh, and here is their voice of reason?

Thank you for not following Jesus.

Yes, bring as many Muslim refugees to the USA. I fully support it.
We need them badly and it happens to be the humanitarian thing to do.

Muslims in America:
1. Educated. They comprise less than 1% of the population yet 4% of the professional services in medicine and technology.
2. Professional. They adapt to American life more quickly than any other religious group and begin paying taxes sooner.
3. Freedom. The presence of Muslims strengthens separation of church and state.
4. Secularism. Believe it or not, Muslims who leave the totalitarian regimes where religion is strictly enforced and settle in America lose their religion faster than any other religious group.


do you think ass max knows what he is talking about? do you think his statements are fact or just a fantasy ;) because his agenda is one of what? based on his earlier comment (see above) … HE GETS TO STONE THEM :( as soon as they start getting similar freedoms as the other religious … maybe even more (loudspeaker call to prayer 5X a day) … he gets what? 


a-max, mark and all the rest are clueless on the trauma … the special needs  … and they haven't a clue on how many slip through the cracks. the media pushing agenda shows " a "fairytale" to play on the EMOTIONS and the SHAMING … without regard for the REAL WORK! it's atrocious! the ignorance ---the denial---the carelessness is criminal! 


like we said … THE ORPHANS!

YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS---isn't that right? you will know the ones who don't really reason out the situation and recognize the dangers. they pig and pig and pig in their excesses, touting their superiority … telling others how stupid and sinful and delusional they are … how often I have seen the word "idiot" used and yet, they dump it all on others to sort out the mess … the mess that they make! the infections that they ignore … try to hide and deny! you can always tell those who don't really care about the WOMEN AND CHILDREN---their safety! it's all about their fuckingpolitics!!! OBAMA AND HIS COHORTS ARE DELIRIOUS AS THEY STRUT IN THEIR HOUSES OF DENIAL. sure, we want to help, but what in the world is he thinking??????????????????

he's not. because he is an academic lost in a sea of political manifestos to create a legacy that looks a hell of a lot like fantasy.


this is just one piece of info. imagine how many you DON'T KNOW ABOUT

Germany: Migrants’ Rape Epidemic

Germany: Migrants’ Rape Epidemic, Gatestone InstituteSoeren Kern, September 18, 2015

  • Although the rape took place in June, police kept silent about it for nearly three months, until local media published a story about the crime. According to an editorial comment in the newspaper Westfalen-Blatt, police are refusing to go public about crimes involving refugees and migrants because they do not want to give legitimacy to critics of mass migration.
  • A 13-year-old Muslim girl was raped by another asylum seeker at a refugee facility in Detmold, a city in west-central Germany. The girl and her mother reportedly fled their homeland to escape a culture of sexual violence.
  • Approximately 80% of the refugees/migrants at the shelter in Munich are male… the price for sex with female asylum seekers is ten euros. — Bavarian Broadcasting (Bayerischer Rundfunk).
  • Police in the Bavarian town of Mering, where a 16-year-old-girl was raped on September 11, have issued a warning to parents not to allow their children to go outside unaccompanied. In the Bavarian town of Pocking, administrators of the Wilhelm-Diess-Gymnasium have warned parents not to let their daughter’s wear revealing clothing in order to avoid “misunderstandings.”
  • “When Muslim teenage boys go to open air swimming pools, they are overwhelmed when they see girls in bikinis. These boys, who come from a culture where for women it is frowned upon to show naked skin, will follow girls and bother them without their realizing it. Naturally, this generates fear.” — Bavarian politician, quoted in Die Welt.
  • A police raid on the Munich refugee facility found that guards hired to provide security at the site were trafficking drugs and weapons and were turning a blind eye to the prostitution.
  • Meanwhile, the raping of German women by asylum seekers is becoming commonplace.

A growing number of women and young girls housed in refugee shelters in Germany are being raped, sexually assaulted and even forced into prostitution by male asylum seekers, according to German social work organizations with first-hand knowledge of the situation.

Many of the rapes are occurring in mixed-gender shelters, where, due to a lack of space, German authorities are forcing thousands of male and female migrants to share the same sleeping areas and restroom facilities.

Conditions for women and girls at some shelters are so perilous that females are being described as “wild game” fighting off Muslim male predators. But many victims, fearing reprisals, are keeping silent, social workers say.

At the same time, growing numbers of German women in towns and cities across the country are being raped by asylum seekers from Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Many of the crimes are being downplayed by German authorities and the national media, apparently to avoid fueling anti-immigration sentiments.

On August 18, a coalition of four social work organizations and women’s rights groups sent a two-page letter to the leaders of the political parties in the regional parliament in Hesse, a state in west-central Germany, warning them of the worsening situation for women and children in the refugee shelters. The letter said:

“The ever-increasing influx of refugees has complicated the situation for women and girls at the receiving center in Giessen (HEAE) and its subsidiaries.

“The practice of providing accommodations in large tents, the lack of gender-separate sanitary facilities, premises that cannot be locked, the lack of safe havens for women and girls — to name just a few spatial factors — increases the vulnerability of women and children within the HEAE. This situation plays into the hands of those men who assign women a subordinate role and treat women traveling alone as ‘wild game’.

“The consequences are numerous rapes and sexual assaults. We are also receiving an increasing number of reports of forced prostitution. It must be stressed: these are not isolated cases.

“Women report that they, as well as children, have been raped or subjected to sexual assault. As a result, many women sleep in their street clothes. Women regularly report that they do not use the toilet at night because of the danger of rape and robbery on the way to the sanitary facilities. Even during daylight, passing through the camp is a frightful situation for many women.

“Many women — in addition to fleeing wars or civil wars — are also on the run for gender-related reasons, including the threat of forced marriage or genital mutilation. These women who face special risks, especially when they are on the run alone or with their children. Even if they are accompanied by male relatives or acquaintances, this does not always ensure protection against violence because it can also lead to specific dependencies and sexual exploitation.

“Most female refugees have experienced a variety of traumatizing experiences in their country of origin and while on the run. They are victims of violence, kidnappings, torture, rape and extortion — sometimes over periods of several years.

“The feeling to have arrived here — in safety — and to be able to move without fear, is a gift for many women…. We therefore ask you…to join our call for the immediate establishment of protected premises (locked apartments or houses) for women and children who are travelling alone….

“These facilities must be equipped so that men do not have access to the premises of the women, with the exception of emergency workers and security personnel. In addition bedrooms, lounges, kitchens and sanitary facilities must be interconnected so that they form a self-contained unit — and thus can only be reached via lockable and monitored access to the house or the apartment.”