it has been interesting to watch the roman catholic church (and others) try to appear cool, and hip ... and a secularist organization while trying to appear knowledgeable on matters of the Spirit. plowing the ox and the ass? mixing yarns that don't wear well? 

ale plying friars.  we posted on this in SPIR.  are they trying to appeal to the drinkers or to promote that being a spiritualist and a drinker of ale is somehow GODLY ... and that they can come in and drink with their male mates? you can't get more secular than this. but unfortunately for them, the title friar or monk means nothing in Christ ... because it is never once mentioned in the Writings as having anything of purpose within {this}. Jesus never once calls men to anything of this sort of order and penmanship---never. and celibate men brewing ale to sell to other men ... a big lure? a big lie? pretending at something? these men are just doing what serves them and men like them. this is in no way a SIGN of Spirit or Spiritual Gifts. that they choose to do this ... not saying they can't ... but who can take these men seriously in LIGHT OF THE WORTH AND WORK OF THE ONE?  but the plying of others with drink is really on the head of rome---their superiors. drugging people  ... luring people in with "things" ...  whereas coming in to an understanding of man and his deeds has never been a strong point of roman catholic law. 

look at this current pontiff and how he is being used ... this same drugging ... luring in ... trying to make the institution look ripe for a dying creed. sewing new patches to the old? trying to put new wine into old skins? 

no helmsman. the rcc is a runaway train ... has been for a long, long time and cultishness will not remedy it. 

added:

reading where catholics think this current pontiff is a "ray" of hope (gee, wonder where they get such ideas?)

we ask: ray of hope for what? those who are waiting for a man in stylized garb carrying a religionist title to some how "save" them or "move" them shows the depravity of this mindset called "catholic" 
you see, what they don't "get" ... what they don't understand is that it's NOT TO BE ABOUT THEM. taking up the cross is not about the taking of a religion claiming itself God and plopping self down and saying: pope, what will you do for us? 

let's say a BIG storm is coming ... and catholics sit waiting for pope to pick them up and carry them to a safe place...

but pope can't do this ... he has NO VISION ON THIS---NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS STORM AND ...  he can't even carry himself as he has no knowledge and understanding on where it is he needs to go, let alone carry all those billions of catholics now lapping pope propaganda ... because, you see, props don't move without a WAY to move ...

whoever wants to be my disciple must deny himself ...


*I wash the hands of these ... 

added:

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-feels-used-fake-friends-155808007.html

surely you jest! what in hell has your DYNASTY BEEN ALL ALONG AND HASN'T CHANGED! 

fundamentalists? you blame fundamentalists? as you fundamentally USE THE POOR FOR YOUR OWN AGENDAS?

oh, good grief ... this guy is a piece of work ... 


so, may we ask who is his BF? B.O. or Mahmoud Abbas (his angel of peace)?


ADDED:

OLIVER, GET HIM OFF THE STAGE! WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND HE IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE SOMETHING YOU WOULD NOT LIKE TO KNOW ... 

GET HIM OUT OF THERE! HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING ... GET HIM THE HECK OUT OF THERE! 


Damn you frickin' priests! YOU frickin' lushes ... wake up!