I am going to take this on. it is part of what I do. 

first, the atheist commuter can only speak for 'him' and those who agree with 'him'. he cannot speak for something he has never experienced. this is his biggest error in his view of GOD, and where he says it does not exist, and where he labels people delusional, gullible, believing in a sky fairy … which, btw, is so immensely offensive---YOU HAVE NO IDEA---it is beyond racist. a person can say he does not like a religion due to its racist and or offensive, discriminating beliefs and practices and how it has behaved---CLEAR EVIDENCE OF HAVING SILENCED OTHERS, TREATED OTHERS BADLY, ABUSED and lied about and misled people on many things---without actually hating a person following it, attending its rituals … however, if a person claims to be roman catholic, believing his religion is authority over all  then it can be viewed as a race of people, and should be questioned on its mission, and where it silences others. for it begins to look very racist toward those NOT it, or not like it (those not like it would be those groups/parties/institutions in a seat of power and influence who do nothing to change the silencing, and where/how these promote the continuation of obsessive mission). much like a black person telling a white person he is wrong because he is white or the reverse. we know these races are easily overcome by not paying into and supporting superiority of any race/religion.

 the atheist comes into the world and at some point he makes choices based on some form of intelligence, or not. it may be other atheists he mimics. it may be certain scientists or other fields that focus on something he calls logical that he believes is the only truth, claims as superior because of its logic or use of logic. and logic is strictrequiring adherence to principles requiring certain data. if data does not exist for the atheist saying god is nonexistent then it {GOD} does not exist. this is religionism. this form of logic is much like roman catholicism or mormonism or some other superior claiming order of man. do you see how this is? roman catholic institution is much like atheistic logic. if man sees it within himself, and those like him, it exists, otherwise it does not. it is apostate, in error, delusional … of a disordered state, because he looks for 'proof' through or by way of … 'him' and those like 'him'. but both places of thought ignore evidence of movement, and the kindness and person of people as believer not like him. no, he says, no god or LIFE in kindness and reason, outside my person, system of belief … periphery---what I DEEM to be true, or real. this is exactly how the RCC created itself, and in many areas still operates. it says, it is strictly a part of my ability to think kindly, and reasonably and not coming from anywhere else. in part, this is true, but does he consider inspiration and influence. has atheist been reared in belief that set him on course to be kind and reasonable? was there a person or people who created for him a proper being? a way to behave. and one must also ask, what is considered kind and what is considered reasonable? if atheist believes HIS view on what is kind and what is reasonable is the authority then he plays supreme authority. he thinks himself above others, even above LEARNING AND TEACHING … above many, many others of all forms of expression, and this is a narcissistic way of thinking. it is a fool's obsession, understood as an arrogant god or… regarded as a person of questionable intent. and the question is he of a deluded state? is not an unfair question. 

morality is really not a big determinator in his thought bed. consider richard dawkins statement about the down syndrome child in the womb … who would make such a statement? who-what believes and practices in this manner? now … here is where some religions and atheism part ways. the staunch roman catholic would not abort a child he discovered was down syndrome. the staunch doctrine believing roman catholic would not because his religion says abortion is a vile sin, and I have no doubt that most catholics would not abort a down syndrome baby in the womb because they find it unreasonable to do so. they might find it unkind. they might find it selfish and … arrogant and … playing supreme authority regarding life, above another ... living, breathing person, spirit and … helpless need of help. and experience has shown down syndrome children can and do become important members of society. they have a voice. they may be few and they may be different, but they have a voice. a presence and a force … in who-what they are and what they become, should they not be silenced or treated poorly. anyone who has worked with down syndrome children and adults from accepting families knows that voice, and the thought of removing it (voice) before it can speak is unreasonable and unkind. until you have heard THAT voice (on anything not seen) you do not know … it is not known. and the same goes for GOD. if God is Spirit … worshipped in Spirit and in Truth … Spirit is experienced.  If there has never been a connection with Spirit of the Living God it is understandable that atheist might say God does not exist, but in saying God does not exist he is also saying that PRESENCE OF LIFE does not exist for those in and of Spirit. he is saying you (in this case it would be me) are not a living, breathing person. or, you (me) must be mentally ill ... or you (me) must be mentally <according to HIS beliefs>unstable. atheist/religionist determines a person's wellbeing and state of mind through his own thought calculator ... and in GOD's eyes, this falls short because, it is minus WHAT IS GOD. and who hath seen God?

Christ isn't an idea; Christ is a lesson … a teaching … movement … a living, breathing, moving … Being, IF PERSON OF SPIRIT EXISTS, and I exist, otherwise, WE (me) would not be writing these posts? :)  DIFFERENT, yes … alien to atheist, but not without SENSE AND REASON. the question then becomes: which SPIRIT, good or not good … that you lead or that you follow? AND, can you identify the wolf in sheep's clothing or the devil dressed as an angel of light? (remember the wolf is not what religion has taught).

now I know many atheists would not abort a down syndrome baby, but the point needed to be made on the ethic of moral standard … within society. 


so what happens when atheist-nonbeliever-god is dead set  ...wants to jump in that pool blindfolded, without knowing if the pool has water ? the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OF THE UNITED STATES told Comy not to … share with the american people before the election because …? because it might change the election? yowza. and the atheist-god is dead set  ...resets the ETHICS of JUST BEHAVIOR to suit an agenda? is it of correct behavior to deny people their right to know the truth about something like this---something big like this? 

logic is strict … requiring adherence to principles … but whose principles and how? if of a lawless state how can justice be served? if law changes according to who-what is in charge of … the agencies and the media and the promotions and the money and the power and the … truth on important matters, matters that do matter! that will help decide choices for people … for society, for a nation … to become honest and of a healthy character … but is denied the people … how does this differ from romanism or communism or … a fascist run operation keeping the people in the dark, enslaved and … misused and abused? if denial and in denial on the fraud and the lies and … the abuse of power … for  big establishment, rather than Truth inherit in {God} … what is evil and what is good?  there is no clear distinction. it is a lawless society. 

is atheist-nonbeliever-secularist-democrat-god is dead set … of the mentality WHAT I DON'T KNOW WON'T HURT ME? 

hmm … the TRUTH is if you refuse Spirit then Spirit is refused. very simple logic. it does not take a paul krugman to understand this element in Truth. if god is dead it is because you are in bed with another god. your choice, really. how is it working out for ya? religion and politics that is … 


atheist says: you as a believer in Christ are supposed to love your enemies. 

first, God never says to love hypocrisy. if you have ever read gnostic literature it clearly states: HATE HYPOCRISY. 

any institution or system of belief exhibiting hypocritical oath is up for debate and hate should it show itself to be a hypocrite. IT, not the attendee. if something is used to harm others, it is a lawless state to not call it out and charge it according to its deeds: what IS seen, able to be counted and clarified, also known as EVIDENCE. does atheist and religionist ignore and deny evidence? to suit HIS own way? the calling out of evil is sorely misunderstood by man reading, interpreting the Writings. he wallows in half truths and wonders why it appears contradictory? metaphor is a main segment in the Writings. atheist says: man made up God because he believes the bible and man wrote the bible. well, this is true of anything written in ink. including what atheist and religionist write … about anything, including what he refuses to share. climate change … the elections, cancer causing chemicals every where you walk. if atheist and religionist tell you to jump, jump into the democratic circle where it currently stands without knowing if it has water … you can almost be certain it's either the blind leading the blind or a calculated effort, paid for, by powerful agenda, otherwise known as big establishment. 

what man thought of as … a female, in the bible, holy books, and believed her to be sinful is of ignorant mindset. roman catholicism set the stage for this regarding the NEW TESTAMENT. maybe he followed the example of those of judaism … or maybe he just desired for HIM the him.nal to be all about self-glorification :) really now. but look at the pope and his legion of ignorants. really now. who in their right mind thinks it Christly? it is manmade. and the Writings never elevate these orders as more holy or more Christlike … ever. in fact, it states the opposite. hmmm . but in looking at female in our example, the woman is metaphor. MARY MAGDALENE is metaphor for something. the woman accused of adultery where JESUS writes in the sand is metaphor! the Samaritan Woman at the Well is metaphor! and it never says she was a prostitute! man saw her in his way---the way HE wanted her to be---to look like, an image he created for her to wear-----a BURDEN. much like how he has dressed her down through history … like a trophy, a doll … a demon. a symbol of sex, a sex symbol or, something not up to snuff (not real, not alive, not worthy of the same justice and respect he allows for male). man in this mindset is of the old test-of-men. the new is rich in metaphor persuading man to move out of these childish ways but … man likes his dirty old ways. his filthy blanket. 

we shared before that what JESUs wrote in the sand is:


now … if that doesn't shake and stir you then you are dead ;_ dead in the Essence of the Spirit of Christ. 

and that calling out the demons of this or that character is a calling out the false institution, its false doctrine … not a roman catholic ritual of exorcism. this does not exist in Spirit of the Living God. these men play with things they should not. like a two-year-old wielding a knife. remove the knife and use your SENSE AND REASON to place child where child needs to be. 


the following is from and I was going to post just the very beginning but as I read more I began to see that more is needed to understand the place of a gnostic. I have read this before and I agree but I am not in agreement with gnosticism, as a religion or as a place of remittance. there are things I have learned and experienced that transcend these reality "myths", but also, I am not to abandon the Work I have been sent to do. but do know that the early reader is and was my brother. man took him from me. 

The Gnostic World View:
A Brief Summary of Gnosticism


GNOSTICISM IS THE TEACHING based on Gnosis, the knowledge of transcendence arrived at by way of interior, intuitive means. Although Gnosticism thus rests on personal religious experience, it is a mistake to assume all such experience results in Gnostic recognitions. It is nearer the truth to say that Gnosticism expresses a specific religious experience, an experience that does not lend itself to the language of theology or philosophy, but which is instead closely affinitized to, and expresses itself through, the medium of myth. Indeed, one finds that most Gnostic scriptures take the forms of myths. The term “myth” should not here be taken to mean “stories that are not true”, but rather, that the truths embodied in these myths are of a different order from the dogmas of theology or the statements of philosophy.

In the following summary, we will attempt to encapsulate in prose what the Gnostic myths express in their distinctively poetic and imaginative language. 

The Cosmos

All religious traditions acknowledge that the world is imperfect. Where they differ is in the explanations which they offer to account for this imperfection and in what they suggest might be done about it. Gnostics have their own -- perhaps quite startling -- view of these matters: they hold that the world is flawed because it was created in a flawed manner.

Like Buddhism, Gnosticism begins with the fundamental recognition that earthly life is filled with suffering. In order to nourish themselves, all forms of life consume each other, thereby visiting pain, fear, and death upon one another (even herbivorous animals live by destroying the life of plants). In addition, so-called natural catastrophes -- earthquakes, floods, fires, drought, volcanic eruptions -- bring further suffering and death in their wake. Human beings, with their complex physiology and psychology, are aware not only of these painful features of earthly existence. They also suffer from the frequent recognition that they are strangers living in a world that is flawed and absurd.

Many religions advocate that humans are to be blamed for the imperfections of the world. Supporting this view, they interpret the Genesis myth as declaring that transgressions committed by the first human pair brought about a “fall” of creation resulting in the present corrupt state of the world. Gnostics respond that this interpretation of the myth is false. The blame for the world’s failings lies not with humans, but with the creator. Since -- especially in the monotheistic religions -- the creator is God, this Gnostic position appears blasphemous, and is often viewed with dismay even by non-believers.

Ways of evading the recognition of the flawed creation and its flawed creator have been devised over and over, but none of these arguments have impressed Gnostics. The ancient Greeks, especially the Platonists, advised people to look to the harmony of the universe, so that by venerating its grandeur they might forget their immediate afflictions. But since this harmony still contains the cruel flaws, forlornness and alienation of existence, this advice is considered of little value by Gnostics. Nor is the Eastern idea of Karma regarded by Gnostics as an adequate explanation of creation’s imperfection and suffering. Karma at best can only explain how the chain of suffering and imperfection works. It does not inform us in the first place why such a sorrowful and malign system should exist.

Once the initial shock of the “unusual” or “blasphemous” nature of the Gnostic explanation for suffering and imperfection of the world wears off, one may begin to recognize that it is in fact the most sensible of all explanations. To appreciate it fully, however, a familiarity with the Gnostic conception of the Godhead is required, both in its original essence as the True God and in its debased manifestation as the false or creator God.


The Gnostic God concept is more subtle than that of most religions. In its way, it unites and reconciles the recognitions of Monotheism and Polytheism, as well as of Theism, Deism and Pantheism.

William BlakeIn the Gnostic view, there is a true, ultimate and transcendent God, who is beyond all created universes and who never created anything in the sense in which the word “create” is ordinarily understood. While this True God did not fashion or create anything, He (or, It) “emanated” or brought forth from within Himself the substance of all there is in all the worlds, visible and invisible. In a certain sense, it may therefore be true to say that all is God, for all consists of the substance of God. By the same token, it must also be recognized that many portions of the original divine essence have been projected so far from their source that they underwent unwholesome changes in the process. To worship the cosmos, or nature, or embodied creatures is thus tantamount to worshipping alienated and corrupt portions of the emanated divine essence.

The basic Gnostic myth has many variations, but all of these refer to Aeons, intermediate deific beings who exist between the ultimate, True God and ourselves. They, together with the True God, comprise the realm of Fullness (Pleroma) wherein the potency of divinity operates fully. The Fullness stands in contrast to our existential state, which in comparison may be called emptiness.

One of the aeonial beings who bears the name Sophia (“Wisdom”) is of great importance to the Gnostic world view. In the course of her journeyings, Sophia came to emanate from her own being a flawed consciousness, a being who became the creator of the material and psychic cosmos, all of which he created in the image of his own flaw. This being, unaware of his origins, imagined himself to be the ultimate and absolute God. Since he took the already existing divine essence and fashioned it into various forms, he is also called the Demiurgos or “half-maker” There is an authentic half, a true deific component within creation, but it is not recognized by the half-maker and by his cosmic minions, the Archons or “rulers”. 

The Human Being

Human nature mirrors the duality found in the world: in part it was made by the false creator God and in part it consists of the light of the True God. Humankind contains a perishable physical and psychic component, as well as a spiritual component which is a fragment of the divine essence. This latter part is often symbolically referred to as the “divine spark”. The recognition of this dual nature of the world and of the human being has earned the Gnostic tradition the epithet of “dualist”.

Humans are generally ignorant of the divine spark resident within them. This ignorance is fostered in human nature by the influence of the false creator and his Archons, who together are intent upon keeping men and women ignorant of their true nature and destiny. Anything that causes us to remain attached to earthly things serves to keep us in enslavement to these lower cosmic rulers. Death releases the divine spark from its lowly prison, but if there has not been a substantial work of Gnosis undertaken by the soul prior to death, it becomes likely that the divine spark will be hurled back into, and then re-embodied within, the pangs and slavery of the physical world.

Not all humans are spiritual (pneumatics) and thus ready for Gnosis and liberation. Some are earthbound and materialistic beings (hyletics), who recognize only the physical reality. Others live largely in their psyche (psychics). Such people usually mistake the Demiurge for the True God and have little or no awareness of the spiritual world beyond matter and mind.

In the course of history, humans progress from materialistic sensate slavery, by way of ethical religiosity, to spiritual freedom and liberating Gnosis. As the scholar G. Quispel wrote: “The world-spirit in exile must go through the Inferno of matter and the Purgatory of morals to arrive at the spiritual Paradise.” This kind of evolution of consciousness was envisioned by the Gnostics, long before the concept of evolution was known. 


Evolutionary forces alone are insufficient, however, to bring about spiritual freedom. Humans are caught in a predicament consisting of physical existence combined with ignorance of their true origins, their essential nature and their ultimate destiny. To be liberated from this predicament, human beings require help, although they must also contribute their own efforts.

From earliest times Messengers of the Light have come forth from the True God in order to assist humans in their quest for Gnosis. Only a few of these salvific figures are mentioned in Gnostic scripture; some of the most important are Seth (the third Son of Adam), Jesus, and the Prophet Mani. The majority of Gnostics always looked to Jesus as the principal savior figure (the Soter).

Gnostics do not look to salvation from sin (original or other), but rather from the ignorance of which sin is a consequence. Ignorance -- whereby is meant ignorance of spiritual realities -- is dispelled only by Gnosis, and the decisive revelation of Gnosis is brought by the Messengers of Light, especially by Christ, the Logos of the True God. It is not by His suffering and death but by His life of teaching and His establishing of mysteries that Christ has performed His work of salvation.

The Gnostic concept of salvation, like other Gnostic concepts, is a subtle one. On the one hand, Gnostic salvation may easily be mistaken for an unmediated individual experience, a sort of spiritual do-it-yourself project. Gnostics hold that the potential for Gnosis, and thus, of salvation is present in every man and woman, and that salvation is not vicarious but individual. At the same time, they also acknowledge that Gnosis and salvation can be, indeed must be, stimulated and facilitated in order to effectively arise within consciousness. This stimulation is supplied by Messengers of Light who, in addition to their teachings, establish salvific mysteries (sacraments) which can be administered by apostles of the Messengers and their successors.

One needs also remember that knowledge of our true nature -- as well as other associated realizations -- are withheld from us by our very condition of earthly existence. The True God of transcendence is unknown in this world, in fact He is often called the Unknown Father. It is thus obvious that revelation from on High is needed to bring about salvation. The indwelling spark must be awakened from its terrestrial slumber by the saving knowledge that comes “from without”. 


If the words “ethics” or “morality” are taken to mean a system of rules, then Gnosticism is opposed to them both. Such systems usually originate with the Demiurge and are covertly designed to serve his purposes. If, on the other hand, morality is said to consist of an inner integrity arising from the illumination of the indwelling spark, then the Gnostic will embrace this spiritually informed existential ethic as ideal.

To the Gnostic, commandments and rules are not salvific; they are not substantially conducive to salvation. Rules of conduct may serve numerous ends, including the structuring of an ordered and peaceful society, and the maintenance of harmonious relations within social groups. Rules, however, are not relevant to salvation; that is brought about only by Gnosis. Morality therefore needs to be viewed primarily in temporal and secular terms; it is ever subject to changes and modifications in accordance with the spiritual development of the individual.

As noted in the discussion above, “hyletic materialists” usually have little interest in morality, while “psychic disciplinarians” often grant to it a great importance. In contrast, “Pneumatic spiritual” persons are generally more concerned with other, higher matters. Different historical periods also require variant attitudes regarding human conduct. Thus both the Manichaean and Cathar Gnostic movements, which functioned in times where purity of conduct was regarded as an issue of high import, responded in kind. The present period of Western culture perhaps resembles in more ways that of second and third century Alexandria. It seems therefore appropriate that Gnostics in our age adopt the attitudes of classical Alexandrian Gnosticism, wherein matters of conduct were largely left to the insight of the individual.

Gnosticism embraces numerous general attitudes toward life: it encourages non-attachment and non-conformity to the world, a “being in the world, but not of the world”; a lack of egotism; and a respect for the freedom and dignity of other beings. Nonetheless, it appertains to the intuition and wisdom of every individual “Gnostic” to distill from these principles individual guidelines for their personal application. 


When Confucius was asked about death, he replied: “Why do you ask me about death when you do not know how to live?” This answer might easily have been given by a Gnostic. To a similar question posed in the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, Jesus answered that human beings must come by Gnosis to know the ineffable, divine reality from whence they have originated, and whither they will return. This transcendental knowledge must come to them while they are still embodied on earth.

Death does not automatically bring about liberation from bondage in the realms of the Demiurge. Those who have not attained to a liberating Gnosis while they were in embodiment may become trapped in existence once more. It is quite likely that this might occur by way of the cycle of rebirths. Gnosticism does not emphasize the doctrine of reincarnation prominently, but it is implicitly understood in most Gnostic teachings that those who have not made effective contact with their transcendental origins while they were in embodiment would have to return into the sorrowful condition of earthly life.

In regard to salvation, or the fate of the spirit and soul after death, one needs to be aware that help is available. Valentinus, the greatest of Gnostic teachers, taught that Christ and Sophia await the spiritual man -- the pneumatic Gnostic -- at the entrance of the Pleroma, and help him to enter the bridechamber of final reunion. Ptolemaeus, disciple of Valentinus, taught that even those not of pneumatic status, the psychics, could be redeemed and live in a heavenworld at the entrance of the Pleroma. In the fullness of time, every spiritual being will receive Gnosis and will be united with its higher Self -- the angelic Twin -- thus becoming qualified to enter the Pleroma. None of this is possible, however, without earnest striving for Gnosis. 

Gnosis and Psyche: The Depth Psychological Connection

Throughout the twentieth Century the new scientific discipline of depth psychology has gained much prominence. Among the depth psychologists who have shown a pronounced and informed interest in Gnosticism, a place of signal distinction belongs to C. G. Jung. Jung was instrumental in calling attention to the Nag Hammadi library of Gnostic writings in the 1950's because he perceived the outstanding psychological relevance of Gnostic insights.

Carl Gustav Jung, 1875 - 1961The noted scholar of Gnosticism, G. Filoramo, wrote: "Jung's reflections had long been immersed in the thought of the ancient Gnostics to such an extent that he considered them the virtual discoverers of 'depth psychology' . . . ancient Gnosis, albeit in its form of universal religion, in a certain sense prefigured, and at the same time helped to clarify, the nature of Jungian spiritual therapy." In the light of such recognitions one may ask: "Is Gnosticism a religion or a psychology?" The answer is that it may very-well be both. Most mythologems found in Gnostic scriptures possess psychological relevance and applicability. For instance the blind and arrogant creator-demiurge bears a close resemblance to the alienated human ego that has lost contact with the ontological Self. Also, the myth of Sophia resembles closely the story of the human psyche that loses its connection with the collective unconscious and needs to be rescued by the Self. Analogies of this sort exist in great profusion.

Many esoteric teachings have proclaimed, "As it is above, so it is below." Our psychological nature (the microcosm) mirrors metaphysical nature (the macrocosm), thus Gnosticism may possess both a psychological and a religious authenticity. Gnostic psychology and Gnostic religion need not be exclusive of one another but may complement each other within an implicit order of wholeness. Gnostics have always held that divinity is immanent within the human spirit, although it is not limited to it. The convergence of Gnostic religious teaching with psychological insight is thus quite understandable in terms of time-honored Gnostic principles. 


Some writers make a distinction between “Gnosis” and “Gnosticism”. Such distinctions are both helpful and misleading. Gnosis is undoubtedly an experience based not in concepts and precepts, but in the sensibility of the heart. Gnosticism, on the other hand, is the world-view based on the experience of Gnosis. For this reason, in languages other than English, the word Gnosis is often used to denote both the experience and the world view (die Gnosis in German, la Gnose in French).

In a sense, there is no Gnosis without Gnosticism, for the experience of Gnosis inevitably calls forth a world view wherein it finds its place. The Gnostic world view is experiential, it is based on a certain kind of spiritual experience of Gnosis. Therefore, it will not do to omit, or to dilute, various parts of the Gnostic world view, for were one to do this, the world view would no longer conform to experience.

Theology has been called an intellectual wrapping around the spiritual kernel of a religion. If this is true, then it is also true that most religions are being strangled and stifled by their wrappings. Gnosticism does not run this danger, because its world view is stated in myth rather than in theology. Myths, including the Gnostic myths, may be interpreted in diverse ways. Transcendence, numinosity, as well as psychological archetypes along with other elements, play a role in such interpretation. Still, such mythic statements tell of profound truths that will not be denied.

Gnosticism can bring us such truths with a high authority, for it speaks with the voice of the highest part of the human -- the spirit. Of this spirit, it has been said, “it bloweth where it listeth”. This then is the reason why the Gnostic world view could not be extirpated in spite of many centuries of persecution.

The Gnostic world view has always been timely, for it always responded best to the “knowledge of the heart” that is true Gnosis. Yet today, its timeliness is increasing, for the end of the second millennium has seen the radical deterioration of many ideologies which evaded the great questions and answers addressed by Gnosticism. The clarity, frankness, and authenticity of the Gnostic answer to the questions of the human predicament cannot fail to impress and (in time) to convince. If your reactions to this summary have been of a similarly positive order, then perhaps you are a Gnostic yourself!


so you believe mani and seth, along with JESUs to be the true prophets or messengers of light … could be a question people would ask. mani was a mystic having thought too highly of himself. he went astray in the purpose of Truth as God. and as I said before we do not believe the characters of the old testament were/are real. metaphorically in the spiritual sense … yes, but not as actual messengers carrying What is God. seth and the others are dimensions within the process in the story … of resurrecting TRUTH. transcending the words of man and his marriages … returning to Light. and we already stated that jESUS is a myth, but a highly significant One. however, it was PAUL who carried the Word. but Christ is real. it is a very real dynamic in Light, but is not reachable (teachable) without the Feminine Divine, and is why the gnostic feels that strong connection to {this}. 


reform is a catholic word, jacob. you use it for your own 'age' much the way the roman catholic church did. look in the mirror without the mind and what do you see? if the roman catholic church had not mutilated the teachings … WE WOULD NOT BE WHERE YOU ARE … waiting for you to understand that reform waters down the vigor in the Worth ON he who is called …

stein wants to move out of the two party system winner take all (read the last section under government). that two party system is kind of like church and state or roman catholicism and protestantism. in bed together for their own purpose. and their pope is the system that keeps them there---paralyzed. there is no chair! no chair of peter and there should not be a big old president, with his fatalistic agendas. and it matters not if you call it liberal … it's still the same method of democracy, with patriarchal religion as its modifier. the wars keep happening and the abuse and corruption continues. 


saw the following comment to jacob's commentary and was shown it needed to be addressed---a glimpse. steve lewis … I have seen his comments a while back @RNS, and once or twice exchanged posts with him there. 

It doesn't really matter. Pauline Christianity itself is facing its End Times along with Judaism, Muhammad's Islam, all the Abrahamic based religions. Pauline Christians don't know it but Armageddon has already come for their beliefs. It came with the Israeli archaeological findings about the Hebrew writers of the Torah/Tanakh stories. Megiddo, (= "Armageddon" as the name of the Canaanite Divine Assembly mountain home) turns out to be one of the best archaeological sites in the Holy Land to show the history of Canaanite/Hebrew populations through the years showed the Hebrews to be a relatively lately formed religious ethnic group, no evidence of them at all before 700 B.C. which of course kinda makes doo doo of all those earlier "Hebrews" no one can find any significant traces of as it explains why that is so. God has crushed the intellectual head of all Abrahamic religions as there is no spiritual authority to be derived from belief in man-made myths of origin with no historical reality behind them.

But God hasn't left believers in God bereft of spiritual guidance. While these are the End Times of Abrahamic religions a new Christianity has been born, one totally unexpected but one with the stamp of authentic Jewish Christian prophesy bearing not seen in the world for the last 2000 years. The Celestial Tauret has been recovered and with it the Christ Aquarius Revelation. God has delivered believers back to the original celestial Sign Language written in the movements of the stars and planets that began the formal structure of most all earthly religions. The "Word of God" books turn out to be full of priesthood lies but God wisely embedded the Celestial Tauret astro-theological code within Scriptures so it's still there to be found and found it has been. Christianity will never be the same again as the Messianic Message has been returned to central stage and the false and misdirection theologies of Judah priests and Pauline ones cleansed out of the House of God.

I teach Celestial Tauret Christianity and soon others can read about the marvelous rebirth of Christian theology just in time to save God's Messianic Message from going down the historical tubes with Pauline Christianity facing its End Times, both sets, Catholic and Protestant as only Jewish Christianity is authentic to God and the Messianic Message.

steve speaks with the hand of the prophet but the heart of a canaanite. this is a dialectical hot seat. 
but inking prophesy without THE PROPHET is a daring and dizzying proposition. who announced him "God"? who-what made him … what he is? for what and in what manner? he is correct in some of what he says, but what does he mean by jewish christianity? his anger is smudging his portent. his hatred is wilting the flower. he is heavy handed for a prophet ON Truth. what is not embedded in the Writings is a BODY carrying LIFE for those with ears that hear. if palestine receives what it demands … which leads to the destruction of the nation of israel, the jewish sector, it may very likely lead to the destruction of certain freedoms, and this is integral to a rising of the Star. so … jewish intellect (as a Spiritual Concept) leaves the land of israel for the Star of Israel? hmm …


I AM of gnosis but do not belong to any of these gnostic groups. but do understand how a group of men, claiming authority, beginning in the 4th c. began a system that denied and destroyed. it might be wise for the israelite to better understand his home.


REFORMER RC pope takes unity bid to protestant heartland? there's that word again. PROTESTANT. as a non-Catholic are you a protestant? what if you NEVER viewed the roman catholic church as christian ... does that still make you a protestant? who-what invented these labels to serve itself? and who-what is now crusading to serve ITSELF. has anyone bothered to ask the pope or his minions why he is on a crusade of ECUMENISM? he has not changed anything significant about his religion. he still views women as second class, slaves and baby breeders for the roman church, but was quick to announce that he and all christians worship the god of islam and that the muslim brotherhood is HIS brother. maybe that was the change the religious world was waiting for: give me a larger, fatter, more patriarchal .. RELIGION< one that will undermine female once and for all.  he pleads behind his white robes: we can hire a coat and play god to seduce the people.  but RC doctrine has not changed! … so in that sense he is no reformer so why paste him as a reform pope? why not ask him why he is a hypo-dinosaur stomping all over the lives of others and getting in the way of TRUTH progress? the media, along with industries like RNS want to whitewash the evil of this institution by painting this pope as a peacekeeper and a great man of humility and  … change. he is no such thing. he is a baiter and a dishonest salesman. a political puppet and … when the tables turn, that pendulum swings … RNS will get hit with a law suit, as will a number of other of false principles, but you see … RNS also does not post their hillary's very bad behavior …or allow jill stein a fair article, no … they SHOWER PARTIALITY ON THE PEOPLE, much like agent orange: gee we did it to annihilate our opposition. hmm, but look what it did to their soldiers and … INNOCENT CIVILIANS. a big nasty rotting … method of ignorant precepts. a dangerous tactic with a horrific consequence.  this REGIME is partial and dishonest in its reporting. like all political religious entities it denies the truth about its behavior to savor the poor parenting and ignorance of … patristic deity. it knows not the FEMININE DIVINE. and posting female bishop this or female pastor that UNDER a patriarchal flag of ignorance is not, and WE repeat, NOT keyed into the FEMINE PRINCIPLES OF LIGHT. it knows not the Christ of Truth. it, like much of the agenda-seeking PAID for view media … denying people a FAIR AND HONEST reporting. maybe it just does not know how. it has lived in denial and poor parenting so long it is sick with deception. 

how does one raise a child in these affairs? 

I spy with a keen eye the pope as institution a traitor to the people, esp the jewish nation. he pretends at "brotherhood" but his real brotherly love resides in israel's destruction. hmm … how is that for a sting? he plays his cards cleverly. what he is doing is trying to get the "protestants" supporting or in favor of israel to become anti-israel by parading himself as ecumenical and IN UNION with them, seducing them to trust him and his institution in a time of changing religious example and decrease of roman catholic influence.  he wants to seduce them into becoming more like his order of industry … shifting their support away from israel for palestine, his preferred brother. more to the RCC's orders. I am surprised the jews haven't caught on to pope's antics. they eat what is placed in front of them and don't stop eating? but what if that dish is contaminated? poisoned? a form of serious betrayal: let's fatten them up then … 

the pope betrays you, israel. wake up! pay attention to the RCC's operatives using pope george, a roman catholic of sharia type law. 

but RNS? a religious news service touting itself as …? as what? all YOU need do is read through weeks worth of news and commentary and you will easily see the bias, if not wearing a blindfold . it's a scam. and it is a shame. example: there was an article very much out in the news of a few gay men telling why they support trump. one of them was bashed in the nose by a hillary supporter. what does RNS post that day? EVANGELICAL trey pearson coming out as gay and in full support of hillary in his "holier than thou" reasoning? lol. what a crock of bullish**. it is so obvious even the cows cry for milking in such a desolate place … a desert of deception. USING THE GAY, even if they have to make them up, using the black and the woman and the migrant and the … child … but what about the abuses? RNS has not been up front about the abuse of child and female. BECAUSE THEY ARE OF A PATRIARCHAL INDUSTRY --paid by these institutions and they willingly honor their sponsors, despite the biases. and they don't f'ing give a damn about the lies and the deception. they don't seem to care about the mass sexual abuse of children in their god institutions. or the poor treatment of female. they are like those that pay them to deny the people the truth. 

shame on you RNS. it is time that the people know of your ignorance and your bias! 


if the article is correct then  … CHRISTIANS, stop supporting israel. withdraw your support. no one wants to be called tepid, right> or disingenuous. honor your pope george and give your money to your god the roman catholic church instead. give that extra to their second baskets that's supposed to go to the [pope's poor] but we hear goes to the roman curia instead (what---90+ % to the curia? now that's some holy sh**!) stop supporting israel

 and jews, you seem to feed on pope regalia, too … and love and follow the liberal so ...join the group and stop supporting israel … okay?


okay, given what we have seen so far coming from the "progressive" religious news sites and most of their commentators … the following would be something they would post:

because of the "god" part … however, when do you see them posting the crimes of the roman catholic pope? or the fact that islam's prophet would encourage that child marriage and sexual use of children. but you won't see this coming from these news sites, LIKE RNS … rabies, pastors and … professors and theologians and … gays and … popes. 

back patting is what you see, and paying into and supporting these legions of practice through misinformation and partiality. they misuse their influence and their power and … they deny you the information you need to make safe choices for yourself and your family. they hide the very obvious practices that many islamists support and … they do not want you to know what the roman catholic pope has done that hurts women and children all over the world. they parade him, present him as a man of care while denying you info on what happened in ARGENTINA when he was archbishop and what he did in chile by orating BARROS to a higher position which …
silences victims. so what is RNS and those like it? they won't show anything about hillary's email abuse and what has come out thus far or … that hillary silenced victims of rape. they won't allow the questions or the reporting to be shown. they are deniers and they twist news to suit a political RELIGIOUS agenda … 

their big, fat roman catholic islamic state. 

how do you like them apples? but what happens when the people realize who the traitors are? and when they recognize they have been misused …? what happens when the tables turn and the democratic party looks like what it really is? what will its supporters having lied and denied important info look like? obama, michelle, hillary, bill … and many others had the power and the seat to speak out on these crimes on female and children! they did nothing! (only spoke out when trump was under fire for his comments and awful acts on women. only then when it was CONVENIENT for them to speak to dispose of their competition and make themselves look … guiltless :( … truly sad, sad affairs and highly disingenuous). even after the cases came out in droves and the movie SPOTLIGHT won best picture … and the movie ROOM where woman and child were abused! where does the democratic party and their supporters having denied critical info on crimes and giving time and money and VOICE to these horrendous crimes stand in their ecumenical shit hole?

worthless. greedy and … 

___and this is what the pope calls his brother, supports and worships the islamic's god. huh, looks like abuse to me. and the liberal left and so-called progressives like the idea of child marriage increasing? yep, given some of what I have seen coming from THEIR ART … they do!