https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophanes

  1. "One god, greatest among gods and humans,
    like mortals neither in form nor in thought."
  2. "But mortals think that the gods are born
    and have the mortals' own clothes and voice and form

Xenophanes wrote about two extremes predominating the world: wet and dry (water and earth).[27] These two extreme states would alternate between one another and with the alteration human life would become extinct then regenerate (or vice versa depending on the dominant form).[28] The idea of alternating states and human life perishing and coming back suggests he believed in the principle of causation; another distinguishing step that Xenophanes takes from Ancient philosophical traditions to ones based more on scientific observation.[28] The argument can be considered a rebuke to Anaximenes' air theory.[27] A detailed account of the wet and dry form theory is found in Hippolytus' Refutation.

He also holds that there is an infinite number of worlds, not overlapping in time.[13]

Xenophanes concluded from his examination of fossils that water once must have covered all of the Earth's surface. The use of evidence is an important step in advancing from simply stating an idea to backing it up by evidence and observation.[28]

Xenophanes is credited with being one of the first philosophers to distinguish between true belief and knowledge, which he further developed into the prospect that you can know something but not really know it.[29] Due to the lack of whole works by Xenophanes, a lot of meaning is lost and a large amount of guessing is at hand, so that the implication of knowing being something deeper ("a clearer truth") may have special implications, or it may mean that you cannot know something just by looking at it.[30] It is known that the most and widest variety of evidence was considered by Xenophanes to be the surest way to prove a theory.[28]

His epistemology, which is still influential today, held that there actually exists a truth of reality, but that humans as mortals are unable to know it. Karl Popper read Xenophanes as saying that it is possible to act only on the basis of working hypotheses—we may act as if we knew the truth, as long as we know that this is extremely unlikely.[31] Xenophanes' views then might serve as a basis of Critical rationalism.

In today's philosophical and classics discourse, Xenophanes is seen as one of the most important presocratic philosophers. It had also been common since antiquity to see him as the teacher of Zeno of Elea, the colleague of Parmenides, and generally associated with the Eleatic school, but common opinion today is likewise that this is false (see Lesher, p. 102).

There is one fragment dealing with the management of a feast, another which denounces the exaggerated importance attached to athletic victories, and several which deny the humanized gods of Homer. Arguments such as these made Xenophanes infamous for his attacks on "conventional military and athletic virtues of the time" and well known to side with the intellectual instead.[5]

-----------was doing my usual and saw that a commenter on rns had posted writing from xenophanes. this is very interesting and perfectly suited for this "world" to engage within. the RETURN is about going back to the beginning ... as   "in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God ... "

xenophanes is absolutely on port in his intellectual exegesis. he may not have formed the exercises in these, but he was/is truly in line with the portent for UNDERSTANDING on "what is God"

we do not judge him  ... in what he did not do for his place, or on the fact that the Christ had not yet been introduced as we hear in the NEW testament (witness) as he cannot have known what we now know ... but he is just as much of this 'wine' as the prophets of verse. each in his day ... 

the overlapping worlds speak on the charisma of truth born from the canticles of man in motion. the events that startle and unglue ... 


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