Since Republican governors are supposed to be the bad guys here, let’s listen to a DEMOCRAT governor on this refugee issue.

“New Hampshire Gov. Maggie Hassan took it one step further, becoming the first Democratic governor Monday afternoon to call for a complete freeze of Syrian refugees entering the United States until the government can “ensure robust refugee screening.”

‘The Governor believes that the federal government should halt acceptance of refugees from Syria until intelligence and defense officials can assure that the process for vetting all refugees, including those from Syria, is as strong as possible to ensure the safety of the American people,’ said a statement from Hassan’s communications director, William Hinkle.”

— Boston Globe, (online), Nov. 16.

Ooo-Wee !! Imagine that. A Democrat governor is calling for the same rational, common-sense position as the Republicans.

How come Silk’s article didn’t even mention her? Hmm?

- See more at: http://marksilk.religionnews.com/2015/11/18/welcome-to-my-state-syrians/#sthash.mGjCsiZX.dpuf


yes, and there are states uncommitted … no response yet, and that includes NEW YORK (as of yesterday when I checked the map <30+ states are a 'no' for now>). I am sure maggie is speaking from the experience of what happened in Boston. every governor anywhere near this experience has not so quickly forgotten it. they were likely highly empathetic to the reality of the logistics involved … the affect on the people, and tourism and … how about law enforcement? it's a wake up call to be sure. something very different from the norm. and can they trust the higher up to be screening and following terrorists-possible terrorist activity? are they doing a good enough job? did anyone knowing the boston brothers see this coming? a kid fresh out of high school? when it came out, students and teachers knowing the younger brother were saying: it just can't be … we know him! he is our friend---a sweet guy! they were stunned. there is no question they felt it. 

I am not consumed with fear and I am not panicking. there will be attacks … here, there  … we said this in SPIR. whether it is coming from a disgruntled, mentally ill and or frightened teen or a terrorist having been schooled for a while in a cell right under the noses of FBI … there will be attacks. this isn't saying the intelligence agencies are not doing their job; this is saying you can't always know where and how the enemy will move, and they move where they see opportunity. they will take advantage of this. it is an open door. 

the Writings tell of this … keeping the lamps lit … what this speaks on is not just knowing if the infiltrator is within your midst … also if the infiltrator is within you. but let's be honest here; there is not one that does not have a darker side. the question is … what do you allow or what are you capable of allowing … 

balance is a misunderstood pride. sense and reason embody this and check the vineyard at all times and in all types of weather, especially in bright, sunny days. evil desires to crush those perennially rich. it also seeks to use it to undermine the weak … causing hatred, theft, jealousy, envy … false courtship. it is better to not be too high or too low. it desires when one is so sure of himself---the infallible bean, which grows like jack's magic fruit high up to the world of giants, where they eat little ones. 

continued … 

take a-max's comment to glen (silk's article)

@Glenn,

The Dear Chaplain Martin and I share a love of humanity. We are true bothers that way.

We have opposing views of religion and Jesus. I think Jesus is awful and steers people against humanity. But I respect Chaplain Martin’s right to believe otherwise. I am not all knowing. Perhaps he has a point I have yet to learn.

code orange? you see the smooth moves of ATHEIST? the 'dear' chaplain and I … I am not all knowing? oh? calling believers horrid names? saying they are delusional? go back, folks, and READ READ READ the infallible a-max's recruiting methods. BLANKET HATRED. bigoted comments-even racist commentary. inciting hatred. misusing the Writings, many of which embody believers! he attacks people of faith in GOD. yes, attacks. stalks if you follow his trail of incendiaries. 

what a-max does not get is that many of these "delusional" believers are struggling. their faith and even their houses of worship help them. society like atheist … secularism and government included showed no love. parent showed no love. PUBLIC EDUCATION showed no love … a-max attacks those struggling with depression and worsens the situation, causing hardship … and the youth too young to argue a-max's racist and bigoted agenda and flat out ignorance are too young to quell the confusion. so, ask yourself: is ATHEIST max truly working for humanitarian purpose? he yacks and yacks … read the reports for they are out there for all to see and we have posted quite a few of his comments in SPIR and here in OWA that you might see the fruits of his labor. he hates JESUS … one having spoken in a language unknown to man, unknown to atheist … he is a FOREIGNER to max … one speaking in another language … and atheist max hates this because why? imagine what those coming into any nation speaking another language that the atheist does not understand … how these will be treated. who is the bigot and the racist and the extremist? A-max bases everything on his one dimensional english speaking format---this mindset … just as he was taught---catholic style: his universe. 

where and how does one EVOLVE TOWARD HUMANITY in this hell of individualism and rapid fire hatred? this bond of ignorance? chaplain may be his brother … maybe not but do not be deceived by a-max's smooth moves. do not be fooled by the fools.

on RNS, ATHEIST MAX was given the opportunity to show himself … as I was not of RELIGION, but a believer in Spirit, but this did not matter; he became the STALKER and revealed himself for what he is.  and some of judaism and some of roman catholicism were offended by me because they thought ME anti-religion, saying A-max was just anti-religion, nothing more. actually, his more recent words show his "delusion", because it is JESUS he hates. were these fooled because they were not aware? atheist max is more than just a hater of religion. he hates what he does not understand, and his INTENT on those threads is to RECRUIT for his agenda, and to keep people from evolving, which is far from HUMANITARIAN. it is an imbalance thriving in ignorance no different from the ignorance of a 'religionist' attacking ... not improper housing and dangerous creeds and practices---abuses---but people of a particular FAITH. HE FEARED ME MOST OF ALL>  because I signaled change. what works in him does not want nonbeliever to believe. it is within his belief system and desires that man should not move into GNOSIS. what works in and through him does not want HUMANITY but insanity. he likes that the christian looks bad and shows his bigotry. it serves his agenda. it makes HIM look higher and smarter and better.

know the disease, folks, and where it desires courtship. 

btw, opus dei is notorious for lovebombing

added:

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.



read the language … yes, it is the KJV, but read how the language is of another tongue. how can any atheist misconstrue this for hate agenda if he is ignorant to its meaning? has mankind misinterpreted and misused the Writing? yes. has man forming his groups INTENTIONALLY misused the Writing for self-serving purpose? yes. now, with this in mind, knowing that the language is of another tongue and the words translated, how can anyone hate something not known? if mankind did not get the meaning right, and developed his own understanding, even a MINDSET of how to think and see, how can anyone claim authority? but atheists and … say, but it was written by men! hold on … anyone reading JOHN in the BOOK OF REVELATION can see that it is symbolic. it is like an LOTR story with mystical relevance! what was written was and is SPIRITUAL METAPHOR and IMAGERY. I do not believe the characters in the OT actually existed :) in the story frame. were there men named david and jacob … and others … yes. were there kings that had dynasties? yes. were people attacked and stranded, roaming lands and living in caves and fleeing for their lives? yes. were people ostracized and stoned? yes. did God toss out adam and his eve from the garden because she ate and he ate when God said no, so he booted them out and said, woman, you will give birth in pain. no, I do not experience this in my understanding of Supreme Being. it it not relevant in and on Truth if you are interesting in gnosis. is there spiritual metaphor to the story? yes. I can easily see how this is, but I believe the real story was changed from the original.

if you read PAULs' account of the man brought up into the 3rd heaven … you must surely begin to understand that he is referring to himself within another character. he is not of himself but of One, unseen. 

in gnostic lit THOMAS speaks to Christ, concerned about the "alien". the alien he is referring to is not refugees, despite its political-societal usage. the ALIEN is One in the Spirit. just to be clear should anyone start dipping into the GOSPEL OF THOMAS or the GOSPEL OF PHILIP and … 


*there are heavens … plural. the Writings even state "the heavens" 


cont …

http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-arrests-five-syrians-headed-us-stolen-passports-204536480.html


comment :

Where do these people get the money for this? After a quick search of flight costs. It costs roughly (Prices are for average cost)

Syria to Lebenon = $137
Lebenon to turkey = $205


*btw, that passport discovered in paris … my first thought was, oh, the militants put this out there to make it look like they were using these … then I began to see a pattern … they left it to be found knowing that a certain intelligence would post to the media that it was a strategy to discourage the syrians from going into europe and the states, because they are of course KNOWN for hating america and anything not like them … but the real deal is they are financing their terror within these countries by using _________  


you know there are people in this country and other countries working hard to gain power, prestige and … converts. and these won't hesitate to finance something that gives them what they want … what they need for their industry. do not ever lose sight of this fact. 
never, never NEVER underestimate the certain  religious, even when they look the knight in shining armor. 

the mad rush of latin americans  … mexicans rushing was started by what? and when this did not go exactly as planned, what followed?




added:

http://www.religionnews.com/2015/11/18/americans-long-history-negative-policies-toward-refugees-immigrants-commentary/#comments

for the most part I stay away from this man's writing because he is very one sided, but like a sheet of paper one sided … rather than like an open book … do you know what I mean?

this author pushes catholicism like it's his own religion :D what's up with him? (have seen this throughout his work) getting paid to do this? some specific agenda? or is it his age …

what he fails to share HISTORICALLY is what came before that sent people fleeing for their lives! how can a man of his *ahem* credential be so  … without giving the fuller context? people mistrusted ROMAN catholics (as he seems to forget!) because why? what caused this mistrust … fear, even hatred? and all that idol worship which the puritans were desperately trying to get away from. and later the MAFIA???? c'mon, rudin, tell the truth about what people were thinking and feeling  … EXPERIENCED, AND WHY they may have been wary or resisting. because you are looking very much the bigot, and the rcs did the same to the protestants and "other" once they had populated enough in an area and took over … and let me tell you, baby, they were going at it like bunnies :) I know of one family with 18 children! good grief …

and remember, rudin, who/what taught them? where and how did this all commence----based on a book a certain institution claiming INFALLIBILITY ---GOD's CHOSEN! 

and rudin, what have YOU done to the gnostic like ME? you and your roman catholics? tsk-tsk …  

*in my area there were quite a lot of rcs … and although I did not live in fear of the mafia, it was a known fact that the italian catholics and even the irish catholics had gangs you did not mess with. 

it never made sense: 
Catholic: I went to confession today. My sins are absolved. What sins? Catholic: I stole lunch money from benny, kicked my sister in the leg and broke her favorite porcelain doll, lied to my mom and cheated on my math test. Next day: why did you lie to your mom and spit on your sister and steal benny's lunch money again? I thought you said your sins are absolved? Catholic: that was yesterday … I will go next week and confess my sins. a couple of hail mary ought to take care of things     ;)

and rudin wonders why people were wary of the roman catholics? maybe even hostile? they probably didn't want their children influenced by the ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIGION. oh, man have no idea of the DIFFERENCES IN BELIEFS and practices?



added: you know it's always disconcerting when people don't get this. people move to quieter areas with more trees and fields and less questionable influences, and dangers like crime, because they want to protect their children … sort of like trying to protect them from second hand smoke. they recognize the vulnerability of their children esp at certain ages and they want to try to minimize the confusion and even the distortion on certain topics … and they want to be able to breathe themselves … feeling that they can allow their youngsters to head down to the school to hang out with friends .. shoot hoops whatever without fearing they will be abducted, shot, brutally beaten, ambushed, or heavily influenced through use of some form of "drug". people living apart from this or without children may not see it. people living in a crowded city may not see it. the orthodox jews surround themselves with their own, even building their own large communities even taking over in public offices to ensure either their safety, law and finance or all of the above (lakewwod, nj)

most have no desire to create there own cities of religious, but they do care about the communities and work hard in these along with the schools to help ensure safe and well functioning places. pick up after your dog … make sure there are proper sidewalks surrounding the senior citizen centers and the school grounds are free of dangers … town officials are adept and residents are not running drugs … people pay to live in these places and work hard sacrificing a lot to make this so, and there are added pressures like special needs, aging parents and … things are even harder. don't make light of these, folks. don't spit on those very much wanting to keep their kids safe … while still allowing them freedoms. 

and religion has its pride and its formula … heavy breeders are of concern anywhere and everywhere. don't act as if this is not real. that it can't overburden a school district. I saw first hand on the news where administrators in my area were facing 200-245 students unexpected … they did not even know where these had come from until they saw that they were of similar interest, language and practices. the government slipped them in … no preparation for schools. 




Added:

I read a comment a bit ago:  
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? 

this is often misunderstood, but let us just say this for now … we want to encourage PARENTS to become better parents as there seems to be a message sent daily, almost hourly … on where and how children are falling hard, and many are falling with them. we want parents to take the extra time for their parenting … to give greater thought to what their kids are engaging in and where they may be struggling and show love, not abusiveness. caring how others are being treated by our government can be seen two ways, and honestly I do not believe they really care. if they did they would be addressing the fallings happening right under their noses but they are more about votes, ads … look around, people, your government is a freakin' whino ;) it is full of its own seductive juice and it is desperately trying to pour this out on others and obama and co is looking quite a bit drugged … hammered out. there is a way to deal with this now by starting with the orphans and families committed to proper parenting but why does the government continuing its slogging---wanting it THEIR WAY? we can do this, you know … it does not have to be so antagonizing and weighty. just stop with the shame blame and misrepresentation of sides. stop it! 



Added:

http://news.yahoo.com/family-border-dangers-keep-mexicans-returning-us-181224278.html

many years ago someone asked me a question about countries. I can't even remember the question exactly, but I do remember him saying, what about Canada and Mexico? :D I said, oh, wow … I don't really think of them as "countries" or separate, because I always thought of them as part of the United States (in relation to the question … whatever it was). I wasn't trying to dismiss their heritage or even ignore their nationality as I had always experienced both within the US as if these are part of the US (and living in montreal for 6 months while very very young may be part of this---an imprinted experience). maybe one day mexico really will be under the same governance and proprietorship. 


ADDED:

I don't trust these groups … I really don't. It doesn't matter what they say or how much they play the good samaritan … I trust the refugees more than I trust these organized religious. no apologies. there is no way I trust a bunch of celibate bishops living in cushy seats to understand the complexities of ravaged families, abused and destitute. 

http://www.religionnews.com/2015/11/19/syrian-refugees-faith-groups-welcome-mat/#comments


there is likely money, converts, votes advertising in it for them. 



OKAY, ENOUGH ON THIS TOPIC … all done. Moving on ...